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For starters, find the flat 3rd.

The most important thing that gets added to the mix with a triple row is the ability to play the flat 3rd.

If you have a G-C-F, and you are playing in G on the middle row, find the root G note on the push on the middle row. From there, go the the adjacent button on the inner row, diagonally up the keyboard on the pull (up as in toward the ceiling). That's the flat 3rd in the key of G.

It opens up all kinds of possibilities.

I suggest that you make a keyboard chart, showing all the notes on the push and the pull, and also marking where the root notes are for various chords.

One thing you will notice is that many notes are repeated on the keyboard, but in opposite directions (push vs. pull). Take careful note, because this can be very, very useful.

One thing you can do is get the root notes for chords on the pull. Say you are in G on the center row, just like on the single row, you can get the 3rd and 5th for the G chord on the pull. But you can also get the G root note on the inner row on the pull, which allows for the full G major chord. For that matter, you can throw the 7th in there too, and get a full dominant 7th chord. Or, you can go to the outer row, and get the full G chord on the push.

In general, if you hunt around, the scope for playing chords is massively increased.

Another thing you can do with repeated notes that go in different directions is that you can play note combinations more smoothly if you want to. What I mean is that you can play notes in combination in the same bellows direction and avoid the staccato effect of changing bellows direction. This is handy for bluesy songs.

Lastly, notice the notes at the top of each row. These are weird non-key accidentals that allow for playing totally chromatic runs. They are awkward to get to, but worth the effort.

That barely scratches the surface, but it will give you some stuff to think about.

-David

Corey's DVD.

Get it. It is the only thing out there. The Tex-Mex videos are worthless for Zydeco. You can adjust the DVD and have it in GCF or FBE. Once you get Zydeco Boogaloo you can build on that and figure out lots of stuff.You tube is a great resource too. Watch Corey and Jeffey Brousard. Yu can figure out the licks by watching their hands.

Re: Corey's DVD.

and Chris Ardoin too. Motor Dude is a little tricky. It is done in the F position. Horace
Trahan's DVD also from Wilson has him playing Zydeco a pas Sale on a triple but it is virtually the same as Motor dude. He does it one row over on the inside row to begin but you can see the fingering very clear.
The other thing to do is try and get a feel for the relationship between the rows. Try some blues progressions and work the 1,4,5 chords as many diferent ways as you can can. All of a sudden you will get the whole geshtalt of the thing and then you will be on your way to doing your own thing.

Re: For starters, find the flat 3rd.

Dave,

Many thanks for the info, I'm going to print it out right now.

I've noticed that playing notes on the pull and then the same on the push on another row is really handy with songs. More to work with, definately.

I'll study what you've written. I definately will get Cory's video now

Thansk

Jim

Re: Any random tips/info about playing triple row?

I started to play on a two-row accordion.
That was very wrong for Cajun because I never get the right sound. It was also difficult to handle all those 21 buttons. So I decided to buy a one-row and also the 10 buttons weren't easy at all. When I see the big guys play on a Fat-Gabanelli or something similar, I don't understand how they do it.
Allways pulling that box and at the end the are out of air and they close the bellows very quick.
It's look like magic !!!!

Re: Any random tips/info about playing triple row?

My suggestion would be to download the Sr. Maestro program ( Windows only ) from the Reyesaccordions.com site.. they show scales, in singles, thirds and sixths..and have all fingerings for chords .. the works.

I would play on a Mic'd triple row for anything close to zydeco sound.. ( or mic'd single row for that matter)..lower key the better..

I'd practice with a casio or something backing me up ( drums or whatever ).. to get used to playing with a band.. ( anyone know of zydeco kareoke ??.. songs with no accordion to play with? )..

I would play with an LMM reed set-up at least.

I have a big black DINO triple row in FBbEb with handmade reeds and a pro mic.. if anyone wants to buy it for $2,750 plus shipping ( from Italy ) .. like new condition.

I am playing my Corona IIIR's mostly ( in GCF,EAD and ADG ) .. for zydeco fun.

Glenn

I aggree with Corey Ledet's DVD

I agree. I got the dvd after I got my Panther. It really helped, although I was a little disappointed with the DVD itself. It could have been done a little more profesionnally (you'll see what I mean when you watch it).
A great song to play on the triple-row is "If tears were diamonds., beautifully interpreted by Jeffrey Broussard here on link #2.
Amuse-toi bien!

Re: Any random tips/info about playing triple row?

Glenn is on the mark. Senor Maestro will have the scales, progressions, and chords. How you put them to use depends on the music you want to play.



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