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Re: Origins of a recurrent cajun harmonic structure (intellectualization of cajun music)

I'm confused, Greezy... I see what you're saying but I believe we've gone off track from the original topic.

Re: Origins of a recurrent cajun harmonic structure (intellectualization of cajun music)

No, my comment was on track. Just the part of the track that most cannot see. The little crack on the side of the track that after the train passes over enough causes a bigger and bigger crack, and eventually a disaster.

Cameron, there will come a time when attention will turn toward from the answer seekers. Probably more than you'd like. After all, you're a celebrity. Now there is a whole lot of pent up tension in the accordion playing and learning world. You've seen it before on this very discussion board. Everyone with their own accomplishments, point of view, and different little nuances stuck in their craws.

I realize that you're a young man. I'm not sure how old you are, but I figure 19 to 20?? That would make you of legal age to make your own decisions. Tell me, does your dad read or has been reading the goings on within this accordion discussion forum for the last year or so? I see you've been gone since 2012, came back for a short while in 2015, and then again in 2018. That means to me, that something drove you or him away. At your age, I don't know if it would be a good thing to be put under the microscope like this. Are you willing to commit? Willing to stay the course this time? For the sake of Cajun accordion players the world over?

Re: Origins of a recurrent cajun harmonic structure (intellectualization of cajun music)

Greasy is back with his condescending comments & no proof to offer about those comments. He must be really old.

Re: Origins of a recurrent cajun harmonic structure (intellectualization of cajun music)

:laughing: :laughing: :smile:

Re: Origins of a recurrent cajun harmonic structure (intellectualization of cajun music)

Larry, what brand accordions do you have? What key are they in? There now, I've engaged you personally. How many of the 4 known playing positions on the Cajun accordion do you know how to play in? Do you feel like you've been left out of the loop because someone didn't take the time to recognize your interest in the Cajun accordion and teach you all the secrets of playing Cajun accordion?

What types of problems are you having with playing Cajun music? Is there anything you'd like to ask me?

Hell, you could even ask a question about me personally if you want. As long as it doesn't have to do with my name, address, or phone number.

But I aint gonna make and post videos of myself. Maybe at a later time to clarify what I cannot make clear by typing it. The reason I don't care for the video thing is because I've watched so many accordion player instruction videos that feature a single accordion player not showing anything but the accordion that fall short of impressive. I've watched a few that are sort of impressive, but very few of them show the big picture or the whole story of a true Cajun playing the accordion. Very few of them actually show a "Cajun" who can play the accordion well, showing it in a way that you never forget it. I'm usually impressed by the videos of the Cajun old timers playing some accordion, but not all of them impress me either. Only some of them and only when they do it in a certain way.......from the heart. Not when they're doing it just as a show for the camera. The camera has a way of taking away the true soul of the player I think. It's always gonna be sort of "put on", not as real as when a player is truly feeling it. Like when he plays it "Back Porch Style".

When I finally show myself on video, if ever, you most assuredly won't forget it. In fact, it may even scar you for life! LOL

Re: Origins of a recurrent cajun harmonic structure (intellectualization of cajun music)

I own an Acadian in the key of C. I can play in the 1st & 2nd positions with reasonable competence. The 4th position to me is rather bluesy & I can play a few tunes in D. The 3rd position is weird & I really wasn't aware of it until this discussion of positions started, but I'm working on it.

I'm "out of the loop" because I don't live near any Cajun musicians. So videos help, but they aren't the same as hearing the music live. I've been to Louisiana several times & always come back charged with enthusiasm. It's the "groove" that can't really be gotten from videos & CDs that inspires me. But videos are quite helpful even if they don't show the "big picture or the whole story of a true Cajun playing the accordion." There a couple on YouTube players that are very helpful. Do you think the camera would take away your true soul? I need examples of the four positions, not talk.

So get on your back porch & scar me for life.

Re: Origins of a recurrent cajun harmonic structure (intellectualization of cajun music)

You heard the man fellas. Get busy on some accordion "key" positions videos. I've told yall everything yall need to know. Well, enough to at least be aware of the "Keys" that exists on all of the Cajun accordion choices, but specifically, on the "C" accordion. Somebody out there wants to make a video of just the accordion?? Well....a video of just how to approach the 4 "Keys" would be perfect for that kind of video. No bells and whistles, no singing, crying, screaming, or hilarious exaggerations of foot stomping and head shaking . Just the confirmation chords and octaves showing the locations and approach set up of each of the 4 positions. Oh, and you have to label the accordion that will be used in the video so's everyone can confirm you're not lying or guessing. LOL

Larry, The main locations of the "Key Chords and Octaves" of each "Position" were posted earlier and also, how to label your accordion. If you follow those posts, you won't need a video. You'll be on your way to learning them for yourself. And as time goes by, maybe you yourself will make one of the most valuable videos about it that ever existed!! Teamwork is a hell of a thang!

PS: The 4th position is not just for "Blues". The first time I ever saw it being done was when I witnessed a video of Marc Savoy, playing along with D L Menard and I forget the fiddler that was there with them. The accordion sound and method of play for the song they were performing was very different and ear catching. The name of the song was "Jolie Blond". If I didn't watch that video 50 times trying to figure it out, I didn't watch it once! It was in this process, that I became aware of the 4th position. It is only at this recent time that I myself am able to play in the "4th" at will without my fingers tripping over my fingers and fighting my muscle memory and mind every step of the way. No body said it was easy, but once you master it....consider yourself an accordion wielding weapon master. Ready to take on just about anything them fiddlers can throw at you.

It's not sexual like "karma sutra", lol, but more like accordion "Kung Fu". And when you learn all of the Key Positions of play, you don't have to be the work horse anymore at the jam sessions. You simply tell the 40 or more fiddle player jammers that they will be picking the song, calling the key, leading off, and singing it, while you set back, relax, and follow them for a change. Accordion players have had way too much pressure put on them. It's time for we work horses to relax and let somebody else carry the load. We let the Fiddle become the "KING" once again. Long Live The King.

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