CAJUN ACCORDION DISCUSSION GROUP
HA! Nightshade! Well it's good to see you too! But did you see who's here? It's freakin Steve Riley! What'd you think about it J? You got any questions for him or comments? I got about 50 or so.
Now, this thread could go in soooo many directions it aint even funny, but out of all the possibilities and conversations that could happen, I would like to see the "RIGHT" conversation happen. Imagine good and sensible dialog with Steve Riley! This could bring more enlightenment to Cajun accordion land than I could ever bring!
Steve, allow me to un-ring this bell. I may have come on too strong at first. I was trying to vet you out as being the real Steve Riley or not. Time will tell, because I'm still not 100% positive.
In the mean time, I've picked the most disarming song I could possibly find for the braves to relax, get up and dance around and rejoice. Steve Riley is here! And possibly finally ready to talk!
Crank It Up!
Yeah I can believe it's really Riley . I'd like to hear about the 13 button box myself. Bet he has a wealth of knowledge to draw from and 30 years sounds about right I think his first cd come out in 98. Either way sure wish I could buy lessons. Wondered where you had been haven't heard you in a while. Still have a screenshot of your advice on allons a Lafayette did you mean high c and low c?
I drove 300 miles for private lessons from Steve. One hour-and-a-half lesson per year each January for 3 years, 2013-2015. Also was in his week-long Balfa Camp class a couple of times.
We played stump the band, and I videoed his performances and took them home to study. His informal conversation spices things up a bit, drawing upon his vast knowledge and experience.
My playing doesn't properly reflect his influence, but it's not his fault. :grinning:
Riley is one of the most talented and respected players in the business. If you have an opportunity to learn from Steve personally, don't hestitate.
Ned! I'm glad you're here. How about some more videos? And I'm not from the UK I've talked to you before on YouTube when I saw your earlier videos
Sleezy McGill full of criticism and suggestions but never, ever, good enough to post one **** thing. You are a piece of work and not in a good sense. Now when it comes to Steve Riley teaching accordion he is one of the best. Steve breaks down songs to the individuals level of playing. I have had many lessons with Steve and I will probably take more.
Hey Jerry did you first start out by ear or by numbers?
I started out with lessons with Jimmy Breaux another good instructor. I was one of his first students back in 07. I have also had lessons with Ray Abshire, and Paul Daigle. Steve and Jimmy are the best beginner accordion teachers. The difference is personal style. I didn't start playing the accordion until I was 57 years old. I would drive to Lafayette 3 or 4 times a month for a one hour lesson. That's 100 miles one way. But it was worth it.
Alright thanks then you helped make my decision easier
I think it's great that Steve is doing this and I would do it immediately if I was a citizen of Scott, Lafayette, Eunice, ........
Greezy's suggestions are not allways bad, but sometimes with a lot of irony.
Further it's unbelievable that Greezy choose that song(1995) from Mouth and McNeal which are from the Netherlands. Not really my favourites, because I was more busy with rootsmusic from the USA :blush:
Uncanny isn't it Melo. I really like that song by Mouth and McNeal. I play it over and over while I read these post and make my comments lol, but I'm not a lunatic. I can see how you may not like Mouth and McNeal. They lip sinc'ed American music and they were more hippie than folksie. But they sang this song, and it made people happy and joyous. Which is what we need in the Cajun Accordion Discussion Group.
Steve is this going to be a "thing" that you are going to do from time to time or is this going to be a "see how it goes" thing? i.m asking because I was given a choice, either I can buy a new mower or lessons clinic with Steve Riley. I really need a new mower bad (been milking all of the goodie out of this one for over 10 years now) can't afford to do both.
Somebody tell Jeff that Steve Riley stopped by and misspelled accordion. :joy:
J Nightshade I totally forgot that one of the most detailed lesson on all the "tricks" as he called them was with Horace Trahan. I went to his house a few times and recorded him giving me some free lessons. I have a whole hour or better of them showing me all the techniques, chords, and other aspects of getting that little box to make music. He did if for free. I have posted a video on my music page on facebook "Comme C'etait" playing on of the songs he taught me.
Cool Jerry thank you for all you help and inspiration. Checked out your page for a minute got busy at work so I'll have to cone back to it and give it a longer look. I'm definitely interested in checking out the videos.
hey.... never mind 5 weeks later I finaly got my answer , thanks steve for the reply
sorry but I can't believe that I don't even deserve an answer?
Now you're starting to see the picture CJ Cron. I will be very surprised if Steve does type back at all to anyone. He knows that there will be some questions that will be aimed at him that will not be so easy to answer. It is inevitable. Half of my 50 questions have nothing to do with actually playing the accordion, but instead with "The Big Show", his being "Chosen" and "Prepped" by someone or some persons to be the "Messiah" of Cajun accordion. I'm going to come at him from unusual directions that most people aren't even able to imagine...let alone understand. You see, Steve Riley didn't acknowledge me for anything I have posted on the brave net. He answered me as if he were above me or from a point of view from being superior to me. That's automatic narcissism. Something I know a thing or two about. That doesn't sit too well with me that he did this. For all Steve knows at this point, he might be better off taking lessons from me or asking me to go to his house and give the lessons for him. Jerry, would you like that? LOL
Jerry, dude, I never took one single lesson from any accordion player, master, band member, etc. I learned and earned all of my skills by self teaching. The only thing I ever paid for was my accordions. Every "trick" that any self respecting accordion player learns should be from trial and error or by another friendly and concerned more advanced accordion player showing them to you for free and insuring that you understand these "tricks", what songs they can be applied to, and what songs they came from. Not by paying for someone to show you! Jesus Jerry, I bet you'd argue with the fkn moon if it could talk wouldn't you?
J Nightshade, the high and low C chord doubles combinations on your C accordion are located in two places. Buttons 3 and 6 on the push (lower sound) and buttons 6 and 9 on the push (higher sound). You'd know that if you had gone and labeled the fingers or valve hole paddles on your accordion like I've said many times, lol. Labeling combined with playing the correct buttons is the only way to TRULY UNDERSTAND YOUR ACCORDION and all of the 4 to 5 keys that it can be played in!
hey Greezy me personally, I think that it's a crying shame and potentially a game changer for some unsuspecting accordion player/potential accordion master, not to aknowledge a "fan", potetial student.could completely change my opinion of the man and the myth.
I hear you C.J.. I've been there brother let me tell you! Being left out in the cold by someone you admired. Steve has the disadvantage of being the Phenom he is. Even though many consider him the Messiah, he cannot be in all places at once and know all the answers. Who knows, it may actually be him and he will read and study these comments and decide to come clean and tell all.
The story of the Messiah was told and passed on to billions of people since it began. It may have been a story designed to give hope in a God that resides in the ether above us, or even inside us with our souls, but there's something else the Messiah is being used for that you need to know about....
To make money off of the very people that would seek hope and glory because of said Messiah.
Jesus was a humble and wise(man)(not a god), and he would give wisdom freely albeit cryptically because he so got dam wise. But he did not like the money changers and the money counters. In fact I think he even went to cussin and throwin furniture and beating the living s*** out of some people for selling wares in the temple.
Greezy, dude that's deep!
Yeah I remembered the numbering you said intro in g then you wrote the rest as CDGCD was wondering if you was calling little low and big high
I'm sitting here laughing my ass off at you Sleezy. Your mouth must be as big as the Parish you live in. As long as you have been "blowing your horn" you have never posted a video of anything of what you can actually do. No one believes a ******* thing you say and if they do they are dumber than the box you crawled out of. Steve, nor I nor anyone else has to prove one ******* thing to you. You owe it to the followers to come out of your imaginary closet post something. But that won't happen because just like the name you use and all the bull **** you sling, you are just a phony and a coward. You aren't worth the time people put in reading the bull**** you post. Mr Know it all and show nothing
Jerry L. Moody
Jerry, "Greezy McGill" is the exact reason I am able to post such controversial subjects that need to be addressed. If it wasn't for me, there would be no one to stop the madness! The madness I'm speaking of is that of a carrot being hung off a stick with a string for accordion players like you. You are made to jump and nip and pay for little bits of the carrot, but the carrot is always kept mostly out of your reach. Not with me, I will hold you down and shove that freakin carrot down your gullet until you either learn to stop chasing carrots or you learn how to grow your own got dam carrots! You understand brother? What's got the best of you is that I didn't fall for your BS early in the game. That's because I knew you and your kind. I keep telling you, you and me, we're the same. You cannot fool your own shadow. LOL cryptic aint it?
Just shut the **** you phony asswipe. What truth? That you really can't play? That you are a lonely asswipe and you are looking for friends with your fingers? I am really tired of you trying to make more out nothing. Your steam engine is running out of coal. Expose yourself and remove all doubt or crawl back into your undesirable life
I am not your brother. I don't eat carrots, I don't chase carrots. Your opinion of me is none of my business. Your a ***** plain and simple. Crawl back into your rabbit hole. I never claimed to be an "accordion player" you did. I play the accordion, nothing to write home about but that's just fine with me. It's not about the accordion though is it Sleezy? It's about your ego, that has no one around to sooth it for you. Go stroke it yourself.
Sleezy is this C.J. Cron your new fake name?
NO it is NOT, I am someone else who grew-up in the fine and awesome state on Louisiana. please don't involve me into yall's petty bickering,thankyou
It's a shame that a professional accordion player can't post something constructive on here without a load of silly old goats going ahead and locking horns. Think I'll just read the drug ads instead.
Eventually, jerry's going to push me to the edge and I will state the obvious. Jerry, I've seen you play. Don't make me state the obvious BROTHER.
Yes, you're right AJ, it's a got dam shame.
HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA don't you know drugs will end you?
if sleezy mc**** thinks I give a rats ass about his opinion of my accordion playing he best go back to pulling his pud. I have never claimed to be an "accordion" player, I just play the accordion. And for all the regular smart asses on here I am the only one to write and record an original song. I wrote I didn't steal it. I wrote it and I did not include "te m'a quitté pur ton aller" I wrote and I have received positive comments from all the jocks playing it. My song will become a standard during Mardi Gras. Oh and just to let you all know it was sung in Cajun French. Playing the accordion is not about playing in 4 different position. It's about belonging to the music. I belong. So go ahead you counterfeit ego ***** criticize my playing. Just remember boys and girls this **** face has never posted one god**** video, not even a picture and the skin flute player continues to hide his identity.
Steve, considering "modulation"....I have some songs below that you could show your students. I'm sure the concept of "modulation" would come very clear to them if'n you would introduce them to these songs. This would also, perhaps, introduce them to the concept of how one song turns into another when recording artists don't have what it takes to create anew, but instead, borrow from another, change what was borrowed, and parakeet it into something seemingly new. Maybe you could explain to them how the songs below effected your path to playing Cajun accordion also?
Here is Steve playing Sur le Courtableau on a "D" accordion. Modulation goes from "A" to "D".
And here we go with Steve playing Sur le Courtableau on Nathan's "C" accordion. Modulation goes from "G" to "C". Notice that singing in the key of "C" is not Steve's preferred key in this case.
And then we have Nathan Abshire doing Sur le Courtableau on that same "C" accordion. Notice how he doesn't even bother to modulate, but only stays in the key of "G" on the accordion.
And next we have Lawrence Walker! But he's playing a seemingly different song on a "C" accordion with the modulations from "G" to "C" on the "Mamou Two Step". Wow, who'da known?! And note how Steve and Lawrence sort of favor each other in appearance. LOL.
And for good measure and to put the icing on the cake, we have Doug Kershaw playing "The Mamou Two Step" on a "D" accordion. Here is my gift to you. You play along with his version, but you use your "C" accordion! But get this...you will be playing in the C(C,D,_,F,G,A)2nd key of "D", formerly known as the 4th position Gypsy key, then you will modulate to the 5th key of "A", formerly known as the 5th impossible position. Maybe Steve or even Jerry could explain it better if you're not on board with this. They have a better way of presenting things for some reason. Maybe it's their Irish background.
Messonic isn't it? Possibly Illuminiah. LOL
Hey J. Let me give you a mission that will help you to find your "Big" and "Little" "C" on the "C" accordion.
In the video below, Iry Lejeune seems like he's playing two parts in this song. Listen closely and you will hear what sounds like two parts. In point of fact, it's the same part but using a different playing pattern. For the 1st part he's using the big "C" pattern located toward the top of the button board, and for the 2nd part he uses the little "C" pattern located toward the middle and bottom of the button board. If you persevere and learn to play this song properly, you will learn exactly what I mean. Stop, don't rush, listen, play, and repeat. Hunt and peck. It is possible. Don't listen to the *******ized versions of this song that were played improperly by many a chump that just thought they were as good as Iry.
Oh, and J, if you haven't labeled your valve hole paddles with their perspective push and pull notes yet, now would be a good time. Or else, you'll never catch on to the "Big" and "Little" "C" associated to Iry's Vien Me Chercher and the patterns therein. BTW the bravenet censored a word in my last post. That word was B-A-S-T-A-R-D-I-Z-E-D.