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Re: What style would you like to play?

no i do not have an accordian yet. but i am interested in playing Zydeco. thanks for the tip.

Re: Re: What style would you like to play?

I believe you would want an accordion tuned in D or perhaps even in A. In addition to a Cajun Box, I've seen Zydeco played on several types of instruments: multi-row diatonics and even a chromatic piano accordion. The tuning is probably the key as well as volume. Zydeco is usually amplified and often as not, the accordionist plays only the treble keys as with Conjunto and Norteno because the beat is set by a drummer or a bass guitar.

zydeco is kind of a problem

zydeco is kind of a problem
mainly - you need a whole band before it
sounds like anything
with cajun, you can sit under a tree
and play, and sing, and it sounds like
what it is, cajun music
with zydeco, the music is more defined by
the sound of the band, not just the accordion

you may be considering rosie ledet songs
for instance
a lot of them aren;t that hard to play
but if you play just the accordion part
alone, it won;t even sound like a whole song
take her hit 'i want to take care of your dog'
listen to the accordion part
it;s hardly 3 notes
and when she sings, she doesn;t even play
the accordion
that;s going to sound pretty sparse
without the rest of a band

finding musicians who can make it sound right
is hard also, if you go the band route

just my opinion


wle.

Re: zydeco is kind of a problem

I hear what Larry is saying here; there are a lot of repetitive grooves in zydeco. And if you're not using the bass/left side of your box, it can sound like really thin. And if you're a fresh beginner... pshaw! It's gonna sound like just that. It takes practice, practice, and more practice to make progress. Additionally, it takes listening to both Cajun and Creole music to understand the differences in not only how the accordion is being played, but the instrumentation and rhythms. Immerse yourself in BOTH styles and your horizon will be much broader. It's stone sharpening stone, I tell ya!

BUT... check it... the notion of setting out to learn zydeco without an ensemble in your back pocket is surreal. You gotta do some serious homework before stepping on stage and frontin' a band. Now you may cut your teeth on sitting in for a song or two with an already established band -- I can see that. I just don't agree with zydeco sounds like nothing outside of a band. There's plenty of solo accordion recordings that are killer. Chris, Sean, Corey, Dexter, Cedryl, Preston, Danny Poullard, come to mind.

The majority of zydeco accordionists can play grooves that stand alone, outside of a band situation. It's like anything, it takes practice, and moreover, it takes creativity -- invention is important in the zydeco arena.

I think zydeco is more of a challenge to cop than Cajun. Cajun music may have more imbellishments and ornamentation, but zydeco has some left-field rhythm tricks that do just the opposite of what feels natural. Plus, a lot of the "zydeco meat" is played on the lower register (top buttons), whereas Cajun tunes utilize more of the upper register. Mind you, this is a generalization and is by no means the rule. There are tunes and grooves that make this a moot point.

As far as the correct key for zydeco... man it's in every key; all over the place. There's no rules -- it just depends on your creativity and what key you like to sing in. Certain tunes and grooves sound better in one particular key, perhaps. The whole C for Cajun and Bb for zydeco is an okay analogy, but that held true 15 years ago and not necessarily today. I've been writing heavily as of late, using a high E & F accordion -- zydeco grooves.

But as far as attempting to play zydeco without a band... If that were the case, zydeco music would never leave the couch. In my opinion, yuh gotta know yuh onions to front a band -- which includes being able to play without your dawgs and still make 'em bounce!

~R!CK

Re: Re: What style would you like to play?

Hello Loretta ..

And welcome!

Yes, I agree with Larry .. Zydeco can be difficult
to pull off without a solid rhythm section.

Actually, you could probably pull off more old-school
Zydeco (blues, as Clifton used to play) on a piano
accordion than a diatonic accordion.

If you want to see more about playing the diatonic
before jumping in, check my web page for a *free*
overview.

http://www.bignick.net/BoxLessons/boxlesson_Index.htm

Do you already play an instrument, or would accordion
be your first instrument?

--Big

Where are you located Loretta?

Where are you, and what kind of budget are you working with for the acquisition of an accordion?
The budget will dictate what kind of accordion you could get.



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