Welcome to old and new friends who are interested in discussing Cajun and other diatonic accordions, along with some occasional lagniappe....



CAJUN ACCORDION DISCUSSION GROUP

 

General Forum
Start a New Topic 
Author
Comment
View Entire Thread
Re: The key is...

Bb/Eb with a morphed pitch on the recording

there is a rare chance it is a B/C

Re: cedric watson's two row

Thanks Gus. Whether anyone thinks he is an "amazing" artist or not, I like what he does, and will be waiting in line for this cd. I love it when someone can pour that much emotion into his music.

Re: Re: cedric watson's two row

I agree totally and really I like what he does, In my opinion he one of the best!

I'll be getting this CD too.

..... Ed

Re: Re: Re: cedric watson's two row

Very nice stuff, but I'm curious. too. What is that accordion he's using?
Steve

What are the accordions: cedric watson playing

The first is definitely a Hohner Erica. Can't miss the grill and keyboard styling.
I swear the second, the green one, looks like one of the Chinese boxes I've seen on Ebay.

He is not going into NEW territory. Cedric is going BACK to where creole accordion players have been since at least the 50's. Just look at the instruments shown in Anne Savoy's book. Definitely "roots" music.

Re: cedric watson's two row

I believe the green one is a Dino Baffetti. Nice accordions. Not cheap

Re: Re: cedric watson's two row

That makes more sense. I changed my mind about the chinese idea after looking at some pixs of them. I know I have seen the case design somewhere. Probably Italian like you say.

Re: cedric watson's two row

Looked at the second video again...It is DEFINITELY a Dino Baffetti. Saw the name flash clearly one time.

The first is a Hohner Erica.

Re: Re: cedric watson's two row

It's probably Corey's green Dino that he used in his instructional 3-row video. Sweet box.

R!CK

Re: Re: Re: cedric watson's two row

I would say that sometimes going back is new....

I make traditional painted furniture

I have taken it upon myself to reintroduce cultures and styles from immigrants to No Amwerica largely unknown....

so in a sense.. it is new just as Cedric reintroducing of introducing the classic home gron music

and what s particular refreshing is like it used to be when I was a kid.." you run what you brung"

in this case a very simple Erica..

My guess is that the box may be a C/F doesn't sound quite low enough for a G/C but it could be given that these boxes have only 2 middle reeds and about 17 cents wet...

I think most of us would agree that there is a quiet fire in this music..

soul smoldering stuff...

As I have said before , historically more good music
has been made on Hohners than any other brand

I love 1 rows but there is also magic in a 2 row..

I prefer them over 3 rows..
lissten to early Tex Mex and what Santiago Limenez and the boys dod with old 2 row Hohners before the rage of the 3 row..

Re: Re: Re: Re: cedric watson's two row

Yes, sometimes old is new. Bless all those who bring back what seemed lost.
I was talking with an hispanic man recently whose grandfather played accordion. He remembers three rows as a relatively new instrument. The main thing was two rows cost less and no one ever had a great deal of money for such things. I suspect Santiago Jimenez (Sr.) started on a two row.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: cedric watson's two row

Santiago Sr indeed started on a two row

and Santiago Jr is a very fine 2 row player I much prefer his playing over Flaco and his 3 row

accordion key redux

If it is a C/F, then the pitch on the recording must have been changed. When I was trying to figure out the key for Claude, I pulled out the guitar and played along. Much to my surprise, it came out that the chords were B and F#. I thought maybe the guitar was out of tune, but I checked it with my tuner and it was fine.

So either the pitch of the recording was changed, or this accordion is in an unusual key. I wonder which it is?

-David

Re: cedric watson's two row

Boozoo, many of you will recall, recorded on a two row Erica and was photographed with both an Erica and Corona. John Delafosse once played a mic'ed Erica as well as a Hohner Corso.. Evo plays in CF Pokerwork on his vid..and it does the trick.. I suspect that one was a CF that Cedric is playing ??

That old La la music is way underexposed IMHO.. I am hoping for some re-releases of Mr. Sam's work.. it's great to see/hear Cedric bringing it back to us.

Re: Re: cedric watson's two row

I will stick with my guess that it is a C/F

but with modern electronics and recording techniques. anything is possible

The cool thing about C/F 2 rows is that they seem to be one of the least desirable key systems.. unless you live in the Netherlands.. in which case nearly every one plays a C/F

Also the Brits play D/G first and a second choice is often C/F

I owned a brilliant C/F Corso ....and a Pressed Honey Pokerwork from the late 40's... excellent machine

Anyone Know Cedric? that could give him shout..

Re: Re: Re: cedric watson's two row

I still own one, a C/F erica (vintage, nice tone), but my daughter uses it whenever she has to.

GUs



Jamey Hall's most excellent Cajun Accordion Music Theory

Brett's all new Cajun Accordion Music Theory for all keys!

LFR1.gif - 1092 Bytes The April 2011 Dewey Balfa Cajun & Creole Heritage Week

augusta.gif - 6841 Bytes

Listen to Some GREAT Music While You Surf the Net!!
The BEST Radio Station on the Planet!