Re: Re: Re: pretty good solid body, electric, 5 string ones for under $200
LOL I vote for a tie for best answers between Karl and Roger but hit it right on the head who the f cares about fiddles this is the ACCORDION chat but my best laughs came from the two above mentioned nice job guys
My take on it as an amateur fiddler- I bought an "Ebay special" for $50.00 fully rigged. I do not vote against this because I learned the basics on it and it worked for me. I upgraded to a Gliga (Romanian) a couple years later and of course there was no comparison in quality and playability. No matter what you decide or buy, I strongly suggest that you take it strait to a luthier for a professional setup. If you live in Acadiana, Anya Burgess does this (she set mine up-very reasonable $) and she will be doing a couple more for me shortly. This makes a big difference, even on a cheapy model.
The type of strings matter too. Steel strings are much different from silver wrapped perlon strings. It is noticable to a novice like. Probably also a matter of auditory preference.
Wow Leslie
In all the time I have been reading these posts the phrase "auditory preference" has never come up. Leslie I like you can I mark you as a bud??? Guess the violin players have that vocab over us accordion players
Re: whats the difference between a violin and a fiddle
Joe Venuti not "significant" ? ? ?
That's like saying Don Santiago Jimenez wasn't a significant influence on Tex Mex
or Charlie Christian on Jazz guitar or Johnny Whiznant on 3 finger style banjo ( he predated Scruggs..fact... mechanic in Florida.. beat Earl to the punch) Earl was good but not the original..
Or Iry Lejeune (sp) on Cajun accordion...
It is not a matter of personal disagreement, it is a matter of the facts and chronology. Look up the site Red Hot Jazz and see what is said about viiolinists.
Without Venuti there would not have been a Grapelli.
As a matter of taste Grapelli was ok , Venuti was THE original and raw ...I have heard modern one gypsy violinist sound like him , who can be seen on the Birelli LaGrene "Live in Vienne" dvd ( available from net flix or djangobooks.com) he plays about a half hour into the show.. big boy, pink tie, left handed.. that is the Venuti sound and attests to his enduring influence and significance. Some hot guitar and some fantastic chromatic accordion .. worth the time...
violin: emphasis on melody and tone quality
fiddle: empasis on rhythm, swing or groove.
Jazz violinists combine a lot of both elements.
Grapelly with more "sweetness" (tone quality) and melody in his music - I am talking about the Classic Hot Club sound - and numerous others with (even) more emphasis on "swing".
Grapelly didn't improvise half as much as Django, who really let himself carry away by the rhythm.
And Venuti was the pioneer, no doubt.
By the way: this is becoming a long thread for a Cajun Accordion Forum, or am I wrong?
From accordion to fiddle to violin to jazz... where will it all end??
The fiddle is an instrument with for strings which is played with the aid os a hairy stick (4000 in all).
In the hands of an inexpert it is a dangerous weapon capable of causing severe hearing damage.
The violin is an instrument with four strings which is played with the aid of a hairy stick (4000 in all).
In the hands of an inexpert it is a dangerous weapon capable of causing severe hearing damage.
! I just wanted to say that Ron's definition for fiddle could just as well be for violin.
Isn't this thread getting out of hand, and thus becoming a threat?!?
I missed this conversation so far.
Peer and I are two different persons.
I play in a band with Nout and I do the tit fer there and play accordion in another band (link#2 and #3)
I also try to do something on the fiddle and in my hands it's dangerous for other people and when I touch a string with my left hand the whole surrounding here will be evacuated.
Re: whats the difference between a violin and a fiddle
I heard an oldtime bluegrass fiddler say it best:
He says, if you're a sittin down its one them violins..if you're a standin up..why its a fiddle then..