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Re: Re: Re: old song speed

My sentiments exactly Jude. Cajun music has never not been evolving. Even what we consider "traditional" was evolving at the time it was first recorded. I like to listen to many of the new musicians and appreciate their interpretations, but I will always like that "old" sound and I am glad their are still some of you keeping it alive.

What you and Cory are saying is no doubt true, but there are a few songs that I am refering to that I am not sure if they fit into the category ya'll are describing. The thing that stands out to me is not just the music, but the vocals, they are too high. Kind of like how they get the "chipmunks" sound, but not as exagerated. The one example right off hand I think of is the Breaux Brothers "La Valse du Vieux Temps". I can email the song to anyone who would like to see what I am talking about, or maybe Neal could provide a link to it. But it doesnt sound like Amedée until I slow it down. It is possible it is Cleoma, though.

Neal, what do you think?

Breaux Brothers

Bryan, it sounds to me like Amede singing on the links above. My copy of Valse du Vieux Temps sounds distorted, and I don't know if that was a recording error back then, deterioration of Joe Bussard's copy, or maybe even when I digitized it.

For lagniappe, Fais Do Do, Negre is a nice fast one you don't hear anybody play anymore. Allie Young used to do it when he played at Fred Tate's but I don't know if he recorded it.

Re: Breaux Brothers

Thank you Neal, for providing those links, and for putting to rest my puzzlement, on this anyway.

Your version of La Valse Du Vieux Temps is just like my version after I slowed it down. The one I started with was a lot faster, and sounds more like Cleoma than Amedée. So now I wonder if it was from the person digitilizing the record who played it at the wrong speed, or the company putting it out changing the speed to fit it onto available space. I dont know the source of the version I have.

And now about Iry Lejeune's "It Happened To Me", exact opposite this time. It is a version of "Grand Bosco" with slightly different words and, at least on my version, sounds too slow, like it is dragging. When I speed it up it sounds closer to "Grand Bosco". I think I got this one off of the cassette.

Sorry to keep harping on this subject.

Re: Re: Breaux Brothers

I wonder, in the case of "Grand Bosco" and "It Happened To Me", if one wasn't an alternate take of another. After all, if it was, Iry would have only gotten paid for the one song. But then again, I believe one of them came out after he was dead.
I did speed up "It Happened To Me" and it the pitch and the speed prety much matches "Grand Bosco", which is why I'd question if they were both cut at the same session.

Grand Bosco, It Happened to Me

I think they are different recordings of the same song.

In Grand Bosco, he says Si tu me voir 'pres marcher gone a Grand Bosco.

In It Happened to Me, he says Si tu me voir 'pres marcher au long du chemin d'fer. He doesn't mention Bosco at all.

In Grand Bosco, it's after verse one that he tells the fiddle to take it. In It Happened to Me, it's after the third verse.

Most bands you hear today mix up the two sets of lyrics very happily. They are very close.



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